Why?

 

I have an m8a1 and these are the older models which are OD green fiberglass with a metal tip and throat. The M10 is apparently a newer model made of some kind of composite material "plastic?" Try this link

MILITARY BAYONETS: M-7

 

I have an m8a1 and these are the older models which are OD green fiberglass with a metal tip and throat. The M10 is apparently a newer model made of some kind of composite material "plastic?" Try this link

MILITARY BAYONETS: M-7

Thank you from the neighbor state of Louisiana. Thanks bro!

UB

 

Why?

Why the freak not?

 

Why?

The coolest thing on the planet is spartans killing persians by the millions with nothing but a loin cloth and spears. The closest we can get is bayonets on our hobby ar's.

 

Never question Uncle Buck!

 

I've never found one that fits on a carbine. The 16" barrel is what I've been told is why.

 

I've never found one that fits on a carbine. The 16" barrel is what I've been told is why.

There's two ways to fit one on a carbine. I bought a bayonet lug that mounts on the barrel forward of the original one and used the original for a bipod mount. The other way is to change the flash suppressor to one which extends rearward over the barrel like a sleeve when installed.

 

I bought a USGI M7 bayonet and M10 scabbard from PKFirearms. It is a nice novelty item to have but is not very practical for civilians and is not a very versatile survival knife.

PK Firearms | Online Store

First of all, a typical civilian AR-15 with a 16" barrel and short carbine gas system will not allow proper mounting of the bayonet. The latch of the knife will engage the lug on the rifle, but the ring portion will fall short of engaging the flash hider. Instead the ring will engage the narrower barrel and be too loose.

For a Bayonet to fit you need a 20" rifle with rifle length gas system, 14.5" carbine with carbine gas system, or a 16" barrel and a midlength gas system (which is what I have).

Civilians (and soldiers) have been known to injure themselves with fixed bayonets. I know it is laughable, but strap a 12" double-edged knife on your emergency brake handle, and someday you may cut yourself.

As a survival knife the M7 lacks a waterproof compartment for matches or a saw edge. It is too bulky for carry when camping or hiking. A folding Buck knife would serve you better.

A mounted bayonet ruins the balance of the rifle, making it front heavy and ungainly.

It IS good for poking things. Of all my years in the outdoors, I maybe could have used one to subdue a 40 lbs stingray I caught bowfishing, but I probably would have put a nice hole in the boat too.

I reviewed my bayonet in the thread below (click "Fix Bayonets!"). I gave the standard warning I give whenever I mention bayonets. The thread got off track when people claimed they would never be stupid enough to injure themselves with a 12" double-edged knife fixed onto the muzzle end of their rifle.
http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/ar-talk/94817-fix-bayonets.html

 

Knife nuts are going to cut themselves. No ifs or buts. Happens eventually. Some might say the same could be true of guns but there's a big difference. Operation and maintenance of a knife constantly puts the edge in relatively close contact with the skin, like while sharpening, or just cutting food.

 

Knife nuts are going to cut themselves. No ifs or buts. Happens eventually.

+1. I've got hands full of scars to prove it.

 

I promise I will never intentionally cut myself.

Seriously. I use all kinds of cutting tools at my home for a variety of reasons. A M7 Bayonet would fit (for me) on my rifle AND for the fact that I do not have a cheap cutting tool for whatever I am hacking at. If it fits my AR then it just may be a bonus if slackardObamaliberal shows up at my door. Whatever. Free flow of info may be whats best here. Right?

A $20 knife?

I'll post a pic when I get the stabber on my AR.

If it helps just one....

We're good.

 

ALWAYS question Uncle Buck!

Fixed it for ya' there sweet knees

 

Why the freak not?

Well, it is a light round, typically .223, though there are some heavier hitting variants out there now. All things being equal a light round and what is supposed to be a light weapon, once you add the whole kitchen sink to the forend: lights, lasers, grips, kitchen sink, bayonets that little weapon starts to get a lot heavier and a lot less portable and if is for Sparticus as one poster put it-Did you noticed they traveled light? So, for dreams of taking on the world, I'd just a soon take off the bayonet and have a good blade on my belt. Just my opinion.

 

Get off it. This is nothing more than a hobby for many and part of that hobby, other than spending absurd amounts of money, is having all the bells and whistles available within the hobby. A bayonet, while not really practical for civilian use, is just another object of desire.

Who needs a bayonet? Well, who needs an Aimpoint or Eotech? Who needs a quad rail or any of the various accessories that mount to said quad rail? The answer is nobody but military or law enforcement personnel. Since we can, we do and its fun, just like a bayonet will be fun.

 

I never said UncleBuck should not buy one, just relaying my experience with it. If the M7 fits on your rifle or carbine (see my caveat about it not fitting 16" barreled carbines with shorty gas systems) it is a fascinating bit of kit. Mine is real US military issue, affordable (don't get scalped, I have seen them at 2-3 times the price of what I paid), new, and cool to hold in your hand. You could definitely do some serious damage with this pig sticker in your hand.

For practical purposes it has serious limitations. I keep mine as a novelty, off the rifle. I am glad I bought it and it satisfied my curiousity. Do I need one for each of my AR-15 middies? Nope. If you are at all curious about bayonets or are an M16/AR-15 collector (i.e. gun nut), go for it.

 

Looks like there are a variety of bayonets that "would" fit. This thread shows carbines, midlengths and full rifle with M9 M7 and other pokers.

Photo Thread: How about some pics of M9s attached to weapons - Quarterbore's Forums

RRA 16" MidLength

 

Your example (a 16" middy) is fine, but this example (a 16" light barreled carbine) is wrong. It would knock around like crazy.

 

Yes I see the problem there.

Me wants this...

 

Your example (a 16" middy) is fine, but this example (a 16" light barreled carbine) is wrong. It would knock around like crazy.

Well duh, it's made for a mid length gas system. Nothing more to say.

 

Now THAT is a knife!

 

"Well duh, it's made for a mid length gas system."

Actually, the M7 bayonet is designed to work on a 20" A1/A2 rifle or 14.5" M4 carbine. It also happens to work on a 16" middy. It does not work on a 16" carbine (the most common AR-15 civilian configuration currently being sold).

 

Yeah, we get it. How many more times are you going to say it in this thread?

 

I've never found one that fits on a carbine. The 16" barrel is what I've been told is why.

They will fit the midlength and you can still have a 16" barrel

 

Yeah, we get it. How many more times are you going to say it in this thread?

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